Anthonia Eboreime’s Journey as a Creative Influencer in the Twin Cities
In this episode of Odejuma, Harry is in conversation with engages in a vibrant conversation with Anthonia Eboreime, a creative influencer based in the Twin Cities, Minnesota. They explore the transformative power of storytelling, emphasizing how personal narratives shape identities and foster community. Antonia shares her journey from growing up in Nigeria to moving to the United States as a teenager. She also talks about becoming a dynamic content creator and bartender, offering insights into the ever-changing creative scene in the Twin Cities. They also have an open conversation about the challenges creators face, like the pressure of consistently producing content, and why taking care of our mental health is so important.
Transcript
Hi, my name is Harry and welcome to Odejuma.
Speaker A:Odejuma recognizes the magic of storytelling.
Speaker A:From personal experiences to stories of adventure, from tales of resilience to finding joy in the simple things, this story seeks to inspire, entertain, and educate because there is power in the stories of everyday people.
Speaker A:And these stories are worth telling.
Speaker A:Hi, everyone.
Speaker A:Welcome to another episode of Odejuma.
Speaker A:And I'm here with one of my good besties, Antonia, the Minnesota it girl, culture connoisseur, host of the Something like podcast, avid concert goer, music enthusiast.
Speaker A:What else is missing, Antonia?
Speaker B:All the things.
Speaker B:People's equal, unofficial mayor, you know, all the things.
Speaker B:All the things.
Speaker A:Mommy of Minnesota.
Speaker B:Mommy.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:The big mama.
Speaker B:Shout out to yes, Big mama.
Speaker A:Okay, okay.
Speaker A:Mama of Minnesota, you know, but risky is Mommy of Lagos.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Mama of min.
Speaker B:Minneapolis.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Big Mama of the Twin Cities.
Speaker B:The Twin Cities.
Speaker B:Hello, Metro.
Speaker A:Hello.
Speaker A:You know, I'm so excited that you're doing this with me, cuz I feel like I found you, Literally I found you on Tik Tok and I was like, I need to, I need to be friends with this person.
Speaker A:Like, who is this really like, cool individual living in my city, Just living in my city while you've been here longer, but like living here in the Twin Cities and is Nigerian and is cool and has like all the music plugs.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I'm really excited that, you know, we got to connect and that, you know, we're friends now.
Speaker A:But for the folks who are listening who have no idea who Antonia is, can you let them know who the Minnesota it girl is?
Speaker B:Hello everybody.
Speaker B:My name is Antonia.
Speaker B:Who I am.
Speaker B:Third layer question.
Speaker B:Born and raised in Nigeria.
Speaker B:Moved to Minnesota at the age of 12, 13 with my siblings.
Speaker B:I've lived there ever since, travel a lot, but this has been my home since then.
Speaker B:Went to junior high, high school, college year here.
Speaker B:I am a gopher.
Speaker B:I went to the U of M Twin Cities.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:I love life, you know, I live for a living.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Live for a living.
Speaker B:I saw it too.
Speaker B:I saw it from somebody that, you know, you know, she made it a hard line.
Speaker B:I'm making a hard, you know, tag, you know, type shit.
Speaker B:I like to live for a living, but I have a very unconventional life path and career path.
Speaker B:My background and my education is in HR and in communication.
Speaker B:The bulk of my work experience is in hr.
Speaker B:I started off my work experience with Hennepin county and I did a lot of my HR experience with them.
Speaker B:And then I got into the art and I worked for a very well known museum I'm not giving nobody free film on this platform.
Speaker B:Hell no, I'm not.
Speaker B:But I worked for a very well known museum here in the cities.
Speaker B:I've worked for a few museums here and nonprofits and arts organizations throughout the Twin Cities.
Speaker B:And that's kind of how I found my footing in the arts and became a lady of the Arts.
Speaker A:Lady of the arts, of the fine.
Speaker B:Arts, and also music.
Speaker B:And towards my college, towards the end of my college career, that is when I started my music blog, which was the lifestyle observer.
Speaker B:I've always loved music.
Speaker B:I grew up around music.
Speaker B:My dad is a big music lover.
Speaker B:My dad was in the Nigerian Navy.
Speaker B:He's a retired Navy officer.
Speaker B:So he spent a lot, a lot of his formative years in Europe for his training and all the other things.
Speaker B:So he grew up listening to like the Beatles and all sorts of other things.
Speaker B:So we had all their CDs at home.
Speaker B:So Lionel Richie.
Speaker B:Because, you know, the Africans grow up for.
Speaker B:They go up for Lionel.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:So you know, they love Lionel.
Speaker B:Lionel and the Commodores, you know, they love them.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:You had all their CDs growing up.
Speaker B:So I love listening to music.
Speaker B:Grew up listening to music.
Speaker B:And in.
Speaker B:Towards the end of my college career, I actually went to my first concert in college, I would say, because when I moved here, I was sheltered.
Speaker B:You know that my aunt is a pastor.
Speaker B:So I grew up in Nigeria, very kind of conservative, Christian, religious.
Speaker B:And I'm also the only girl.
Speaker B:I grew up with three brothers, two older, one younger, so extra sheltered.
Speaker B:So I didn't go to my first concert till college, honestly.
Speaker B:And I believe it was like, wale at a club.
Speaker B:And I was like, okay, I love this.
Speaker B:This is great.
Speaker B:And then college being what it is.
Speaker B:But we will have like little, like things where we'll have like artists come and do performances.
Speaker B:So, like, college was fun.
Speaker B:Cause we would have little concerts and the U of M was great because we used to have great artists come through.
Speaker B:Like one of our homecoming performances, we had like Kid Cudi come.
Speaker B:It was great.
Speaker B:Like, it was like, okay, it was great.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:U of M.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:The budget was big then.
Speaker B:Okay, it was good.
Speaker B:Big budget.
Speaker B:So towards the end of my college career, I was like, this is fun.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Everybody knows I have opinions.
Speaker B:You know, I like to talk.
Speaker B:So every time I would go see a concert or, you know, one of these artists will show up on campus or whatever, I will call or text my friends and be like, this was good.
Speaker B:This wasn't good.
Speaker B:They should have did this they didn't do this.
Speaker B:Da, da, da da.
Speaker B:And everybody will be like, girl, stop holding up our line.
Speaker B:You know, write about it, do something.
Speaker B:But don't call us.
Speaker B:You know, send a link.
Speaker B:Like, don't call us.
Speaker B:Definitely don't call.
Speaker B:Like, write a blog, something, but don't call.
Speaker B:And that's really how my blog started is because my friends were like, stop calling us.
Speaker B:Like, don't call us.
Speaker B:Just like, write a blog, send us a link.
Speaker B:That's really how I started.
Speaker B:I wrote a blog and started sending out links to my friends after I saw concerts and giving them my unsolicited thoughts and feelings about shows and concerts and music and things that I encountered or I seen or I liked that were catching my interest.
Speaker B:That's kind of how my that was.
Speaker B:That's my origin story, my lord.
Speaker B:That's my origin story.
Speaker B:Within the arts in the Twin Cities sided.
Speaker A:Yeah, but you went from.
Speaker A:You went from the lifestyle observer to a new.
Speaker A:Why did you decide to switch it up?
Speaker B: ided to switch it actually in: Speaker B:Will always be my lord.
Speaker B:Will always be my core because I just can't escape it.
Speaker B:But I have other interests.
Speaker B:Like, you know, I bartend, I travel a lot.
Speaker B:I also, I'm really into beauty and fashion, so.
Speaker B:So I didn't want to just like, I didn't want to pigeonhole myself.
Speaker B:I wanted to be able to expand past music and events, so rebranded to a new life.
Speaker A:So you grew up in Nigeria?
Speaker A:You grew up in.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You also grew up in Minnesota.
Speaker A:It's like half and half, right?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:So how.
Speaker A:How has experiencing both cultures influenced who you are today?
Speaker B:Oh, it has influenced who.
Speaker B:I mean it.
Speaker B:I don't have a choice very much so.
Speaker B:That's a great question, Harry.
Speaker B:It has influenced me in that, of course, my traditions and my values as a Nigerian, like, guide me in that.
Speaker B:I'm just very sure of who I am.
Speaker B:I'm very confident.
Speaker B:I'm very.
Speaker B:I don't like people playing my face.
Speaker B:Like there are just certain things that I do a certain way that other people don't.
Speaker B:That's just a guided thing.
Speaker B:But from the American perspective, especially when I go to Nigeria, I just, I'm very.
Speaker B:I don't, you know how Nigeria is.
Speaker B:Nigeria is a very, I am, man, hear me roar type of place.
Speaker B:And I'm not that way, especially because I've been living here and that.
Speaker B:That always makes me stand out outside of Every other thing, my accent, you know, I'm here, say one or two things.
Speaker B:Everybody's like, where's your accent from?
Speaker B:I'm in Nigeria.
Speaker B:I say, they're like, where's your accent from?
Speaker B:So I've never been the allegations that, you know, I'm not from one place or the other, but I'm always like, don't treat me as less than because I'm a woman.
Speaker B:And that is always going to be the case, you know, I mean, in Nigeria at least, they're always going to be like, they're always going to answer the man first.
Speaker B:Wherever I go and I'm going, you know, I go with a guy they, you know, and I'm like, oh, I want this thing.
Speaker B:They will turn to the man and be like, oh, is that all?
Speaker B:You know, I'm like, okay, yeah, let's act like I'm not here.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker A:That's very, that's a very n thing that happens.
Speaker B:You know me, I'm always going to turn up.
Speaker B:I'm be like, huh, did you not see me?
Speaker B:So it's those little things I always have to remind myself like, tonya, you know, you're not in America.
Speaker B:Turn it down, please, please.
Speaker B:But I'm always like, can you guys act like you have sentenced?
Speaker B:Like, what's going on here?
Speaker B:Like what's going on?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:But I was always asked, I always have to remember, you know, when in Rome, act like the Romans do not chat.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And was there like looking at your life of everything that you've been through, your journey through like the arts and HR and comms and all these things and music.
Speaker A:What was the thing that made you say, okay, fine, I'm gonna move from just blogging about my, the courses I go to or my experiences to being a full on content creator on TikTok on social media.
Speaker A:What was the switch?
Speaker A:What made the switch happen for you?
Speaker B:I think it was just the natural progression of the Internet and social media.
Speaker B:I think that is just how things evolved.
Speaker B:I think people just went from blogging.
Speaker B:There was a huge blog era and I feel like I was in that era and now there is long and short form video content and I'm playing to that too.
Speaker B:I'm a part of that era now.
Speaker B:I think I'm just keeping up with the times, honestly is the point.
Speaker B:But I also want to write more.
Speaker B:I feel like I'm not writing anymore because I'm not.
Speaker B:Because I feel like that's kind of a lost art.
Speaker B:People are not blogging as much anymore.
Speaker B:But I come back to that.
Speaker A:I think the struggle is that people go to read the blogs.
Speaker A:Because I used to blog too.
Speaker A: : Speaker A:7.
Speaker A:A blogger.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:That was the time.
Speaker A:That was the time there was a whole bunch of folks that were blogging.
Speaker A:There was Diary of a Niger Girl.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Linda EKG was really the akg.
Speaker B:For real.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Couple of cool folks that were blogging that were blogging in Nigeria and in the diaspora also.
Speaker A:That was my Whitman.
Speaker A:My mom was a blogger and then she wrote a book also.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:You know, it was.
Speaker A:It was pretty cool.
Speaker A:And then I.
Speaker A:I just feel like now people are like, it's like short, short, short blogs on social media.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Twitter kind of blew up.
Speaker A:So people are on Twitter doing their thing.
Speaker A:So it's a whole new jurisdiction when it comes to, like, social media content now.
Speaker A:And I'm like, I guess I want to write more.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I want to blog more.
Speaker A:But who's going to read the blog?
Speaker A:I think that's.
Speaker B:The girls are not reading.
Speaker B:Hello.
Speaker B:They not.
Speaker B:They're not reading.
Speaker B:It's true.
Speaker B:Bring back reading.
Speaker B:They're not.
Speaker A:Bring back readings.
Speaker A:That is the goal.
Speaker A:That is the goal.
Speaker A:We gotta get out.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They want to just watch a video, see, or.
Speaker A:They want to watch you watch something.
Speaker A:They want to watch you react to something.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:They want to watch you play a video game or something like that, you know, but this is very.
Speaker A:We are starting like we're old.
Speaker B:We are.
Speaker B:It's true.
Speaker B:We are.
Speaker A:I like Rahul, be like, you know, the youth of today don't want to read anymore.
Speaker A:All they want to do is just chill.
Speaker B:No, they don't.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, I was just talking about this with my cousin the other day because, you know, you know, the girls love to drag Kim.
Speaker B:Kim Kardashian, and then rightfully so, the whole clan do.
Speaker B:And, you know, you know, sometimes it is the message and the messenger and this in this instant, it was both.
Speaker B:But when Kim said, these girls these days don't want to, did she lie?
Speaker A:Maybe she was on to something.
Speaker A:Who knows?
Speaker A:Maybe she was on to something.
Speaker B:You know, was it her place to say it?
Speaker B:I don't know now.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:You know, we'll put a pin on that.
Speaker A:But I think.
Speaker A:I think that another thing I really, really like about, you know, the work that you do on social media is like, you're consistently championing the creative scene in the Twin Cities.
Speaker A:So whether it is a concert, that's Happening or a local exhibition happening at a bookstore or a fair or some ambo or something like that.
Speaker A:You're like, oh, y' all, you know, this is where.
Speaker A:This is where it's going to be at.
Speaker A:This was hot in the Twin Cities.
Speaker A:What do you love about the creative scene in the Twin Cities?
Speaker A:What is it that, you know, pulls.
Speaker B:You in, that is evolving?
Speaker B:I love that people are just, like, finding their voice, finding their footing.
Speaker B:I love to see, like, the younger people, like, expressing themselves.
Speaker B:I feel like when I was younger and when I just got here, I feel like I would have loved to see more people doing the things that I'm seeing young people do now.
Speaker B:And I want to see.
Speaker B:I want to push that.
Speaker B:Like, I want people, more young people to find themselves and see that there are more paths from the.
Speaker B:For them than the paths that their parents are telling them.
Speaker B:That is not only engineering it and all these other things.
Speaker B:Find your own path.
Speaker B:Find your own lane.
Speaker B:Find your voice.
Speaker B:Like, live life for yourself.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's a big thing for me, especially for, like, us Nigerian, you know, children and Nigerian youth and people, is that, you know, we grow up with this, you know, to an extent, our lives kind of laid out in front of us.
Speaker B:Like, you have to follow this path.
Speaker B:For you to be this successful child or for you to be the revered child, for you to be the perfect child or whatever.
Speaker B:But it's like, no live life for you.
Speaker B:Do you.
Speaker B:Whatever that looks like for you, do it.
Speaker B:You know, whatever happiness and joy looks like for you, do that.
Speaker B:And that's what makes me happy.
Speaker B:When I see all these different events and artist showcases and fairs and things, I'm just like, I love this more.
Speaker B:Like, let's do more of this.
Speaker B:Like, how can I support it?
Speaker B:It's nothing for me to share, like, and comment and, like, whatever I can do to, you know, lift it up and, you know, share it, I'm definitely going to do that because I want to see more of that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I also like that it's like, a lot of, like, black folks, you know, that are, like, at the forefront of this creative renaissance.
Speaker A: e only been living here since: Speaker A:But, like, just saying that, like, it's just nice to see all the black and brown people in the Twin Cities just doing amazing work and just creating content.
Speaker A:Events that bring us together.
Speaker A:I think that is pretty.
Speaker A:That's pretty dope.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:And needed.
Speaker A:Very, very needed.
Speaker A:So you are very like, online, you're very, like, joyful and confident and always happy.
Speaker A:What is the source of your joy?
Speaker A:What keeps you keep what?
Speaker B:Source of my joy?
Speaker B:And what.
Speaker A:Say Jesus?
Speaker B:What's the source of my joy?
Speaker B:The source of my joy, Honestly, happiness and joy.
Speaker B:And I say this to people a lot.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It really is a choice.
Speaker B:It's a daily choice.
Speaker B:It's a choice every single day.
Speaker B:Because trust me, there are things that I see, there are things that happen, there are things that irritate me, get on my nerve every single day.
Speaker B:As soon as I open my eye, I'm like, this is about to be the thing that's going to spiral me today.
Speaker B:But I'm just like, somebody said this to me yesterday.
Speaker B:Oh, yes, it was when I was at work yesterday, and one of my coworkers was like, he went to the beach and he was like, somebody stole his wallet.
Speaker B:And he was like.
Speaker B:And he was like, Went about his day.
Speaker B:He was like, I replaced my cars.
Speaker B:I did this.
Speaker B:And he was like, I came to work and I was like.
Speaker B:He was like, you know, the things that used to make me spiral before, they don't make me spiral anymore because something else in two seconds is about to make me mad again.
Speaker B:What am I going to do, die?
Speaker B:I was like, you know what?
Speaker B:You're not wrong.
Speaker B:And, you know, I felt him in that moment because I was like, what is he meant to do now that his wallet is like, what is he meant to do?
Speaker B:I was like, he really ate that.
Speaker B:I was like, you are not wrong.
Speaker B:Because as the wallet is now gone, what am I meant to do?
Speaker B:He was like, the things that really used to unravel me, they don't unravel me anymore, because what am I meant to do?
Speaker B:I was like, yeah, it's really.
Speaker B:In that moment, he made a choice.
Speaker B:He was like, I can literally crash out right now, or I can just do the adult thing and close all my cards, you know, figure out all the things that are in that card.
Speaker B:You know, do the adult thing, Figure it out and move on because get a new idea.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:What's crashing I gonna do for me in this situation besides give me a headache?
Speaker A:And stepping, like, getting a new idea will make me crash out, though, immediately.
Speaker B:And he has to get one.
Speaker B:You know, the airport, they talk about real id, fake id, you know, other.
Speaker A:ID you saw in my head, I'm like, bro, I better have that problem.
Speaker B:You know, He.
Speaker B:America is not like us.
Speaker B:So we gonna crash out.
Speaker B:We will crash out.
Speaker B:Oh, we not you know, I'm like, no, no.
Speaker B:But, you know, things like that, it's just like, you just have to make that choice.
Speaker B:It's like, is this the thing that's gonna unravel me or am I just gonna let it go?
Speaker B:And like, 10 times out of 10, I just let it go.
Speaker B:I'm just like, yeah, amen.
Speaker B:I'm just gonna choose Joy.
Speaker B:I'm just gonna have a time.
Speaker B:And it's pretty cool.
Speaker B:And as you know, you know, with our very chaotic fan group, it's like, we're really prioritizing Joy and fun right now.
Speaker B:We're having a good time and it's.
Speaker B:Laughter is bubbly, is good times, and I love it for us.
Speaker A:Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker A:A little bit of slight drags here.
Speaker B:And there, but it's, you know, it's.
Speaker A:Good, you know, Guess yes.
Speaker B:The girls going, go.
Speaker A:I'm also very curious about, like, because you're a degree.
Speaker A:I created creative scene.
Speaker A:You have a podcast, you have your content creation work.
Speaker A:How do you do with, like, creative blocks?
Speaker A:Because I know that as a creative that times I like, I don't know what I want to do.
Speaker A:I don't want to make anything.
Speaker A:How do you deal with that?
Speaker B:Ooh, ooh, that's a good one.
Speaker B:Because I'm just now coming out of a creative block.
Speaker B:I've learned to, like, creative blocks being one of them.
Speaker B:But, like, when I'm experiencing certain emotions, I've learned to name it.
Speaker B:Once I name it and, like, address it, like, call it what it is.
Speaker B:I, like, give it its name, call it what it is and release it.
Speaker B:And I try not to dwell in it too much.
Speaker B:And also I try not to give myself a hard time for experiencing that thing or, like, harboring that emotion or feeling that thing.
Speaker B:I give myself however, you know, long.
Speaker B:However long I need to experience that emotion or whatever it is.
Speaker B:But not too long, though.
Speaker B:Not too long.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I try not to dwell into anything for that too long.
Speaker B:But when I especially creative blogs, I honestly, I go outside, I have fun.
Speaker B:Especially creative blogs, I go outside and have fun.
Speaker B:Because if I try to, like, force it, I'm not going to.
Speaker B:I'm not going to do it.
Speaker B:Whatever I create, when I try to force something, I'm not going to post it, or if I post it, I'm not gonna engage with it when people comment on it, and then I'm not gonna respond to the comments.
Speaker B:Like, I don't wanna look at it again.
Speaker B:I don't want to.
Speaker B:I'm just going to be like.
Speaker B:Because I know that I did it from a place of.
Speaker B:I wasn't really settled.
Speaker B:Like, my mind wasn't really in.
Speaker B:I kind of forced it.
Speaker B:So I'm like, I don't even wanna look at it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I'm just like.
Speaker B:I just put the phone down and I'm like, let me go outside.
Speaker B:Let me have fun.
Speaker B:Let me touch grass, you know, let me just go.
Speaker B:So fun.
Speaker B:Having fun is how I get over creative blocks, is having fun and really just, like, reconnecting with myself.
Speaker B:Because when I.
Speaker B:I've noticed recently when I have creative blocks is when I haven't taken too much time to, like, take care of myself and, like, connect with myself is when I feel like I'm, like, feeling disconnected from myself, honestly.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker A:So I'm guessing based on, like, what you're saying, I'm guessing that you're.
Speaker A:Your draft is packed with content that you're like, I'm not going to post this.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker A:Do you ever do.
Speaker A:I feel like I'm having, like, a.
Speaker A:I'm having, like, a dry spell, you know, Because I feel like with social media and content creation, you feel like you have to constantly, you know, once you start, you have to feed the.
Speaker A:Feed the people.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So, for example, with this podcast, for example, I'm recording multiple episodes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:So I can keep dropping them weekly and not have, like, a block where it's like, oh, you know, I can record or I cannot.
Speaker A:You know, there's something that's going to go regardless.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:So I think that just thinking about that, like, do you ever feel pressure to post stuff?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker B:And I'm honestly trying to reprogram my mind to not feel like that.
Speaker B:Because once I start to put that pressure on myself, then I'm like, I don't post for months.
Speaker B:I'm like, it's quiet.
Speaker B:I'm like, I'm not posting.
Speaker B:I'm like, I actually don't want to post.
Speaker B:Then it starts to feel like work for me.
Speaker B:And it's not meant to be.
Speaker B:It's meant to be fun.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, even though I, like, I get work from it and, like, I, you know, I have, like, I do paid post and partnership and sponsorship and all that fun stuff, but, like, it's fun for me.
Speaker B:Like, I enjoy doing these things.
Speaker B:Like, I enjoy being a content creator.
Speaker B:I enjoy, like, all the partnerships and sponsorships that I've done.
Speaker B:I've been, like, organic.
Speaker B:Like, there have been things That I love doing.
Speaker B:Like the partnership that I just finished doing with the Wedge.
Speaker B:I love the Wedge.
Speaker B:That's my co op.
Speaker B:I've been a member of the Wedge for years.
Speaker B:I've gone there and shopped there for years.
Speaker B:So that was an organic partnership that became something that, you know, I started doing branded content for them.
Speaker B:So that was great.
Speaker B:So things like that, it just kind of works out organically.
Speaker B:So I love that.
Speaker B:I love when things like that just kind of happen organically.
Speaker B:I just, once it starts feeling like I get in my head too much and it starts feeling like work, I have to clock in.
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, you're like, no, no thanks.
Speaker B:Cut the camera.
Speaker B:Cut it.
Speaker A:I'm curious about, like, because I know you've done a couple of sponsorships, but, you know, and as a micro influencer, what advice do you have for other micro influencers who are looking to have, like, brand partnerships and brand deals?
Speaker A:Is there like a formula or how do you get.
Speaker A:How do you get stuff like that?
Speaker B:There isn't a formula.
Speaker B:Honestly, just posts.
Speaker B:Post your content.
Speaker B:I know, I feel like it's redundant and everybody says the same thing, but honestly, there's really no formula to it.
Speaker B:It's really just post your content and be authentic.
Speaker B:Like, be yourself.
Speaker B:Like, I feel like what you said about me is everything that people kind of know me for.
Speaker B:Like, I love promoting local creatives, like the local scene.
Speaker B:Like, anything that's going on, like, I'm a big champion for that.
Speaker B:I think people associate that with me and my brand.
Speaker B:So, like, when people want to talk about, like, upcoming music or upcoming events or, like, upcoming, like, I love the farmer's market.
Speaker B:So, like, if the.
Speaker B:When the farmer market, like, reaches out to me to come and do, like, content for them, I will do that because I'm always there every weekend, you know, so, like, I love local produce.
Speaker B:Like, I love the co op.
Speaker B:Like, those things align with the things that I do.
Speaker B:Because I love shopping local, I buy local type things.
Speaker B:So it's like, align the things that you really love to do.
Speaker B:Like, align yourself with that.
Speaker B:Like, show people that, like, be authentic the things that you love.
Speaker B:Post about them, tell people about them.
Speaker B:Share your interests, share your passion.
Speaker B:Like, you don't.
Speaker B:You never know who's watching.
Speaker B:You never know who can share, like, connect you with the right person that will get you that brand partnership or get you that lead that you're looking for.
Speaker A:Okay, that's a word.
Speaker A:That's a word right there.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:And apart from like, brand Partnerships.
Speaker A:You're also a bartender.
Speaker A:You're a bartender.
Speaker A:You made the switch to bartending from your corporate job and you are in a bartending collective for bipoc folks.
Speaker A:Bipoc femmes.
Speaker A:Am I correct?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Bipoc femmes.
Speaker A:I'm in the Twin Cities called Mama San and y' all had an exit.
Speaker A:Y' all had an installation at the Walker last year.
Speaker A:That was really nice.
Speaker A:That was really, really nice.
Speaker A:It was like really.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was it.
Speaker A:That was a good show.
Speaker A:In hindsight.
Speaker A:That was a really good show.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:My ex.
Speaker B:And I'm about to put this in a group chat.
Speaker B:Hold on.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Was it in March or was it in May?
Speaker B:It started in March and I think it ended in.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:In March, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, I think I was there with my ex.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:Some of our other friends.
Speaker A:So some of our other friends were there, plus the ex.
Speaker A:And it was a really nice.
Speaker A:It was a really nice way to get them to see the Twin Cities, get them to see the walker, see the art space.
Speaker A:It was really cool.
Speaker A:It was really cool.
Speaker A:But yeah, Mama San, go ahead and your switch to bartending, please.
Speaker A:Do people want to know?
Speaker B:Harry?
Speaker B:Eta.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:That's in general.
Speaker B:Hey, Claudia, I will be putting this in the group chat.
Speaker B:Just notice drop and you just want to move on.
Speaker B:And yes, we will put in that.
Speaker A:The interview is not about me.
Speaker A:The interview is about you.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:So Mama Son love my Mama Son Collective crew.
Speaker B:We all used to work at a bar together.
Speaker B:Lawless Distillery over South Minneapolis.
Speaker B: Lawless closed in January of: Speaker B:So when Lawless closed, a lot of us in the collective are either artists or like kind of doing our individual things.
Speaker B:So when the opportunity came for us to work with the Walker, we came together and we're like, let us start our collective.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:You know, let's do this.
Speaker B:We love each other.
Speaker B:We enjoy.
Speaker B:We really enjoyed working together at Lawless.
Speaker B:And it's very rare for people to work together and be like, let's start a business together.
Speaker B:But that is how much we respected each other and trusted each other to be able to go into business together and do this amazing project with the Walker that was very, very successful for over 3, almost 4 month run installation with the Walker, with New Eagle Creek, with Sadie Hawkins.
Speaker B:It was amazing.
Speaker B:Sadie Barnett.
Speaker B:It was amazing.
Speaker B:And now we're just trying to figure out, you know, what's next with the collective.
Speaker B:We've had a few members, like, move out of state and everybody's kind of just doing their Individual things.
Speaker B:But, I mean, the collective is still collective in.
Speaker B:The collective in.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm still a bartender.
Speaker B:A few of us, you know, we're still bartending, so it's not like we're not into bartending.
Speaker B:Bartending is still what we do.
Speaker B:We do it very well.
Speaker B:But, you know, what made you.
Speaker A:How did you stumble on bartending?
Speaker A:Was it always a thing that you were interested in or did it just fall on your lap?
Speaker B:That is a great question.
Speaker B: Bartending was my: Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B: ring one of our face times in: Speaker B:Like, I was like, where?
Speaker B:She was like, we should start a mixed cocktail brand.
Speaker B:I was like, oh.
Speaker B:I was like, I love that.
Speaker B:That's a great brand.
Speaker B:That's a great idea.
Speaker B:I love a.
Speaker B:I love a cocktail.
Speaker B:I was like, yes.
Speaker B:I love a fine dining experience.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker B:You know, I love.
Speaker B:I love.
Speaker B:I love a good meal, love drink.
Speaker B:So I was like, yes, you know, let's do this.
Speaker B:So I, you know, being a Nigerian and being the woman that I am, I was like, I'm not going into anything blind.
Speaker B:I need to do my research.
Speaker B:I need to know every single thing.
Speaker B:I need to know about this process.
Speaker B:So I was like, I need to learn how to make drinks.
Speaker B:So let me go to bartending school.
Speaker B:So I went to the school of bartending on University.
Speaker B:So I went to bartending school, which, FYI, you do not need to go to bartender school to become a bartender.
Speaker B:I'm just itk.
Speaker B:I too know.
Speaker B:I was just like, how long.
Speaker A:How long was it?
Speaker B:Actually, it's not long, actually.
Speaker B:It's like, you have to do.
Speaker B:Put in a certain amount of hours, but you just.
Speaker B:It's actually not that hard at all.
Speaker B:You actually just put in a certain amount of hours and take a test and then you get your certificate.
Speaker B:It's not that hard.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker B:But I actually, in hindsight, I'm very, very happy that I went because I had no idea.
Speaker B:You know, you see bartenders do a little yang yang, you know, in front of you, be like, oh, wish I could do that.
Speaker B:You know, you've done a little one, two at home.
Speaker B:You're like, oh, yeah, I could do that.
Speaker B:I drink was strong.
Speaker B:You're like, I ate that.
Speaker B:No, absolutely not.
Speaker B:Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker B:There's actually a real.
Speaker B:Real math, real science, real chemistry going on with the art of bartending.
Speaker B:And I've learned That over the past five years now, since I've been a bartender, and I really have no regrets.
Speaker B:I love bartending.
Speaker B:I've learned a lot.
Speaker B:I've met a lot of great people, and it has been an exciting journey for me, and I have met a lot of amazing people, and it has also opened me to.
Speaker B:And it has opened me to a lot of possibilities.
Speaker B:Like, there's a lot of things and opportunities that I would have not come into if I was not a bartender.
Speaker B:And I'm really excited about that.
Speaker A:That is pretty cool.
Speaker A:Do you bartend at a bar or a restaurant?
Speaker B:Both.
Speaker A:Now, see, like, Reba, a single mom who works two jobs.
Speaker B:A single mom.
Speaker B:That theme song.
Speaker B:I'm a survivor.
Speaker A:I'm so sorry.
Speaker A:But, yeah, what do you prefer?
Speaker A:Bart said that at the Borrow.
Speaker A:At the restaurant.
Speaker A:Which one do you prefer?
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:That was too good.
Speaker B:I like both, honestly.
Speaker B:Okay, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm about to be greedy and see a restaurant because there's food.
Speaker A:I hear the restaurants tip better than the bars.
Speaker A:Is it true you get a better tip at the restaurant than the bar?
Speaker B:I want to go ahead and say yes.
Speaker A:You're not even sure I'm gonna go ahead.
Speaker A:Well, it depends on the bar.
Speaker B:It depends on the bar.
Speaker B:True.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker A:Okay, so, like, what bars can I work at and get, like, tipped really well?
Speaker A:That needs to be at a speakeasy.
Speaker A:Do I need to be at, like, a lounge or should I go to the saloon?
Speaker B:I mean, you're gonna go there regardless.
Speaker B:I can't help you.
Speaker B:You are going to go there regardless.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:That's where you go.
Speaker B:That's you.
Speaker B:That's the nature of who you are.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker B:Answer that question.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So the speakeasy.
Speaker A:I'll get the most tips at the speakeasy.
Speaker B:Oh, that's a great question.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Honestly, the thing about tips is that, you know, tips is a still, believe it or not, it's still a widely debated thing.
Speaker B:People feel like they shouldn't tip.
Speaker A:How do you feel about tipping?
Speaker A:As someone who works in the service industry now?
Speaker B:I've always felt like tips are important and courteous because I could never do what they did.
Speaker B:And even more so now that I'm in the role, I'm just like, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Speaker A:Yeah, crazy.
Speaker A:You know, and it's a lot of standing, and y' all aren't getting, like, paid, like, you know, exactly.
Speaker B:You know, like, our base pay is not that great, believe it or not.
Speaker B:You know, we really do rely on tips a lot.
Speaker B:And I think, I don't think people know or understand that part as much as they should.
Speaker B:But no, tip your bar.
Speaker B:When people say tip your bartenders.
Speaker B:No, really tip your bartender, because we do rely on that.
Speaker B:So tip your bartenders, please.
Speaker A:So, so let's do like a little bit of tipping math, right?
Speaker A:To explain to the folks, to the people.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And so the bartender is at the bar making the drinks and you're tipping the bartender.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:How much of that do they take?
Speaker A:Everything.
Speaker A:So you know that we have like debit cards and credit cards where you have to like sign out, write your tips in.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The bartenders take that.
Speaker A:Or what does that look like?
Speaker A:Is it that the restaurant takes a commission?
Speaker A:The folks, like, explain how.
Speaker A:Explain tipping math to me, please.
Speaker B:This is, this is.
Speaker B:Tipping math is complicated in different establishments.
Speaker B:But in an ideal situation, the tips go to the.
Speaker B:Just to the bartenders.
Speaker B:It's just meant to go to the, the bartending pool.
Speaker B:And some establishments will go to like bartenders.
Speaker B:It will go to maybe the.
Speaker B:If it's a restaurant, it will go to maybe the kitchen staff too.
Speaker B:It, you know, depends on, again, how things are kind of divided in regards to staffing, but for the most part it should just go to the bartenders and maybe who are the bar backs and things like that.
Speaker B:And nobody else.
Speaker B:Not management, just the hourly people, not the salaried.
Speaker A:What is the.
Speaker A:What is an ideal tipping arrangement for you as someone who is in the service industry now?
Speaker A:What will work best for you?
Speaker A:And what is the best percentage to tip?
Speaker A:Because people are being, oh, no, 15 is standard.
Speaker A:Take the wallet.
Speaker A:I'll be going.
Speaker A:But you know, but so what is that?
Speaker A:What is the, what is the tipping arrangement that works best for you?
Speaker A:And should we do 15 or should we do 20?
Speaker A:Because that's also a debate now I see on social media.
Speaker B:Yes, I think the tipping, I think honestly, whatever works, whatever is fair for the staff is fine with me because I always want it to be fair across the board.
Speaker B:But for standard across the board for a guest, I think the bare minimum should be 15, at least, not zero.
Speaker B:Now hold on, 15?
Speaker B:15 at least, definitely.
Speaker B:Don't do like, don't do above your means.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not telling you to do too much, but at least 15, I think, I think it's the courteous thing, especially if you had a pleasant experience, if you enjoyed your time, if, you know, had a pleasant experience, you enjoyed your cocktail.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:I think it's the least, like it's Just a courtesy thing.
Speaker B:It's a thank you thing.
Speaker B:You know, if it's that you did not enjoy anything, you're not coming back there type thing, you don't owe anybody anything.
Speaker B:But if it's like you had a pleasant time, you had a good time, you're gonna come back.
Speaker B:It's how you build rapport.
Speaker B:Honestly, because we remember, believe it or not, we remember.
Speaker B:People remember things.
Speaker B:It's like we remember people who tip us well, you know, next time you come, we might give you something extra.
Speaker B:We might do something special for you.
Speaker B:You know, it's little things, like we'll want to treat you even better.
Speaker B:It's little things like that.
Speaker B:That's how you build a relationship.
Speaker B:That's how you build a rapport.
Speaker B:You know, Every good turn deserves another one.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Makes sense.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:So if I come back for a mojito and you make you really well.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'll give you a 20%.
Speaker B:As you should.
Speaker A:If the mojito is watery and not refreshing, I'll give you 10%.
Speaker B:Bartenders at a 20%.
Speaker B:And I know them, vodka sodas be watered down, so stop.
Speaker A:Not at the saloon, though.
Speaker A:Not at the saloon.
Speaker A:I don't take a vodka soda, though.
Speaker A:But you know, the drinks at the gay bars are strong.
Speaker A:That I can.
Speaker A:I can.
Speaker A:I can say for.
Speaker A:For a fact.
Speaker B:What should we getting?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker A:Oh, my drink of choice.
Speaker A:My drink of choice at a restaurant is a mojito because it's refreshing, it goes well with the food, it's really nice.
Speaker A:That's my vibe.
Speaker A:If I'm out, you know, and I want to be out like all night, I'll do a tequila Red Bull.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:The Red Bull will keep me up.
Speaker A:If I want something sweet, I'll do a tequila sunrise because it's kind of sweet too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:So, yeah, if I.
Speaker A:If I want to.
Speaker A:If I'm broke and I want to just drink one drink throughout the night, I'll do a tequila soda.
Speaker A:Because it's not.
Speaker A:I'll be like, sipping it really, really tiny because it's not something you can gulp down.
Speaker B:No, no, no, you can't.
Speaker A:Is that.
Speaker A:Do you have any fun bartending stories?
Speaker A:Like something that happens to you when you're about 10 in that you will never really forget?
Speaker A:Like, any, like, fun, interesting stories from.
Speaker B:I will.
Speaker B:I will share one.
Speaker B:In regards to tipping, actually, I was last summer I was bartending at a wedding.
Speaker B:It was because I event bartend over the summer at some event venues.
Speaker B:So I was bartending a wedding and there was this old man.
Speaker B:I think he was like the grandfather of the bride of one of the wedding parties.
Speaker B:And he would just always come to the bar and he was like, I don't remember what he was drinking, Sha.
Speaker B:But every time he would come, I would, like, make sure he was okay.
Speaker B:I'd be like, you know, what do you want?
Speaker B:You know, he got the same thing, you know, one of those old men, like, just get the same thing all the time.
Speaker B:I'm like, you want the same thing?
Speaker B:You know, I was just like, you know when you just really see people and, like, take care of them?
Speaker B:Like, I treated him like I want somebody to drink, treat my granddaddy type shit, you know?
Speaker B:So I was like.
Speaker B:So at the end of the night, you know, we were cleaning up and everything, this man came to me.
Speaker B:He squeezed.
Speaker B:When I say, when I tell you, he squeezed $40 and put it in my pocket.
Speaker B:And I was like.
Speaker B:He was like, you are he.
Speaker B:First of all, he told me that I was beautiful.
Speaker B:And he was like, you took care of me all night.
Speaker B:And he was like, you are so hard working.
Speaker B:You took care of me all night.
Speaker B:And he was like, I'm so grateful.
Speaker B:I almost busted out, you know, it don't take much to make me cry these days, but I almost busted out in tears immediately.
Speaker B:He was like, you are so beautiful and you are so kind, and you took care of me all night.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:Every time I walked up to the bar, you were like, what do I want?
Speaker B:You gave me water.
Speaker B:You knew what I wanted.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:You know my drink order, like, every time.
Speaker B:You didn't even make me wait for a second.
Speaker B:Like, you just.
Speaker B:He was like.
Speaker B:You were so attentive.
Speaker B:He was like, he.
Speaker B:I was like.
Speaker B:I was this.
Speaker B:I was looking at him.
Speaker B:I was in shock, you know?
Speaker B:To me, I was just, like, doing my job.
Speaker B:And I was like, this is the older man.
Speaker B:Like, I don't want.
Speaker B:You know, it was a big wedding and it was so busy.
Speaker B:Everybody's moving around at, you know, a million miles a minute.
Speaker B:But I was like, y' all stop moving around.
Speaker B:Look at old daddy here.
Speaker B:Can y' all wait?
Speaker B:Let me get old Daddy something.
Speaker B:Hold on.
Speaker A:Was it an open bar?
Speaker B:Yes, it was open bar, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Let me get.
Speaker B:Let me get him his stuff first.
Speaker B:Y' all can wait.
Speaker B:Y' all young.
Speaker B:Y' all can wait.
Speaker B:Let me get him stuff first.
Speaker B:So, like, every time he will come, I would be like, I would stop.
Speaker B:What I'm doing and get him his stuff.
Speaker B:I will stop what.
Speaker B:I'm done getting stuff.
Speaker B:So at the end of the night, he really, he.
Speaker B:He stopped me and he squeezed the money into my hand.
Speaker B:He was like, you are so kind.
Speaker B:You are so beautiful.
Speaker B:And you really did this.
Speaker B:And you really touched me.
Speaker B:And I was like, oh, sweet.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It really moved me.
Speaker B:I was like, wow, good.
Speaker B:People are still around.
Speaker B:Like, to me, I was just like, I'm doing my job.
Speaker B:Actually, that was the second time that type of thing has happened to me in at a bar.
Speaker B:But I was like, wow, Yeah, I.
Speaker A:Just want to squeeze money into my house.
Speaker B:Since I was like, start doing good things.
Speaker B:Stop being nice.
Speaker B:Maybe somebody squeeze money.
Speaker A:I was like, maybe 14.
Speaker A:Nobody has said, I take this one, use it to buy biscuits.
Speaker A:Oh, but like, when we're growing up in Nigeria, they were always squeezing money into my farm.
Speaker A:Now nobody's squeezing money nicer.
Speaker B:I change.
Speaker B:So it's not going to be badly gave.
Speaker A:Well, what has bartending taught you that content creation not about.
Speaker A:So let me, let me say it this way.
Speaker A:What has bartending touch about people that content creation has not taught you?
Speaker B:I would say bartending has.
Speaker B:Oh, I would say it has.
Speaker B:I don't know if affirmed is the word, but it has practicalized this.
Speaker B:A content creator, content creation showed me this.
Speaker B:But bartending is putting this thing into action for me, and that is that people really just want to be seen.
Speaker B:They want to be seen, they want to be heard, and they want to be taken care of.
Speaker B:It's really that simple.
Speaker B:It's really.
Speaker B:It's not that.
Speaker B:It's really not.
Speaker B:It's not deeper than that.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker B:It's not deeper than that.
Speaker B:And I, like I said with the experience with the older man, the moments where the.
Speaker B:The heartfelt moments I've had in bartending have been exactly that moments when people have sat in front of me when I'm bartending and I'm being like, going the extra mile.
Speaker B:And I mean, like, engage them in conversation.
Speaker B:I'm just like, how's your day?
Speaker B:Like, what's going on with you?
Speaker B:And you know, you know, just inquire, like, because I'm asking you, how's your day?
Speaker B:Just for kids?
Speaker B:Like, I really want to know.
Speaker B:Like, I'm asking, like, how are you?
Speaker B:Like, are you okay?
Speaker B:Like, what's up?
Speaker B:Like, tell me, like, what's up?
Speaker B:And, you know, they've really opened up and, like, you know, confided.
Speaker B:Because, you know, the easiest person to confide is Somebody that you think you're not gonna see again.
Speaker B:So, you know, they really be telling me.
Speaker B:And I was like, hey, you know me.
Speaker B:I be telling people the truth.
Speaker B:I'd be like, listen, baby, no.
Speaker B:Okay, don't do that.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker B:And you, beautiful.
Speaker A:You know how you watch.
Speaker A:You know how you watch TV shows, and they're like, there's this bar that people go to.
Speaker B:Yes, exactly.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:I definitely have had those moments.
Speaker B:I'm like, but people like, you know what?
Speaker B:I've really had the longest week of my life, and I just came here because I just knew that I needed a break.
Speaker B:And I'm like, girl, you came to the right place, and I feel you.
Speaker B:And, you know, whatever you need, you let me know, and I got you.
Speaker B:You know, moments like that, and I'm like, I feel you.
Speaker B:Like, sometimes people are just looking for peace.
Speaker B:They're looking for a little piece of heaven, a little peace of mind, honey, a little bit of my.
Speaker B:And they just want somebody to be like, I get it.
Speaker B:I see you.
Speaker B:I understand it.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:And whatever you need, you let me know.
Speaker B:And I think I'm really seeing that with bartending.
Speaker B:It's like, people just want to be like, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker B:And, okay, you didn't like that.
Speaker B:Let me get something else for you.
Speaker B:What do you like?
Speaker B:Okay, that.
Speaker B:That was not to your liking.
Speaker B:I'll make something else for you, and we'll take that off the bill.
Speaker B:You know, just a little.
Speaker A:I'm curious.
Speaker A:Sorry to cut you, but I'm curious.
Speaker A:When that happens, who pays for that?
Speaker A:Drink that.
Speaker A:Is that a loss on the establishment?
Speaker B:No, it's not.
Speaker B:Because we would rather swallow the cost of that than for us to.
Speaker B:For them to have a bad experience.
Speaker B:Because what is a dream?
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's gonna even itself out.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:What is?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We want you to have a pleasant experience, and we certainly want you to come back.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'll make you another drink.
Speaker B:Because I want what you got.
Speaker B:It's true.
Speaker B:I want you to like what you got.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:Shout out to shout out to that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we're gonna go.
Speaker A:We're gonna do some Antonia trivia from Rapid Fire Questions.
Speaker A:We want the girls to know you better, you know?
Speaker A:So the first question is, what are the top three songs on your playlist right now?
Speaker B:Top three is what's my baby's name?
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:I was just listening to the song this time.
Speaker B:Burning Blue by Mariah the scientist.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Mariah the Lab tech on Twitter.
Speaker B:Don't you ever do.
Speaker A:I like her, though.
Speaker A:I think her music is pretty dope.
Speaker A:I was like, the lab tech is ridiculous.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:The girls are always gonna be rude to Mariah, but they're not gonna do that.
Speaker B:I love Mariah.
Speaker B:Burning Blue is number one right now.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Shout out to Mariah, the scientist.
Speaker B:Yeah, Shout out to Mariah Scientist.
Speaker B:Every single time.
Speaker B:You know, I love Craig, David and Ty.
Speaker B:No, I love commitment.
Speaker B:That's my song, too.
Speaker A:That is my song, Davies.
Speaker B:I love that song.
Speaker B:Top three.
Speaker B:And then, you know, I love.
Speaker B:You know, it's Haitian flag month, so you know, I Love Falcon Part 2.
Speaker B:Featuring on our boy.
Speaker B:We should do it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Are you gonna get yourself a Haitian boo?
Speaker B:I mean, it's a.
Speaker B:It's a Haitian summer, so it's Haitian flag month.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:On my Haitians.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Shout out to the Haitians.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:What podcast are you currently obsessed with?
Speaker B:Obsessed with By Force and By Fire.
Speaker A:By Force and By Fire.
Speaker B:And I actually love.
Speaker B:I actually love talking about.
Speaker B:I love her moments.
Speaker B:I love talking moments.
Speaker B:That's my girl.
Speaker B:And I love activity.
Speaker B:I love the music podcast, too.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker B:And the podcast I love.
Speaker B:I said what I said and all of them.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:The Nigerian girl is be eating up with that podcast.
Speaker A:So shout out to them.
Speaker A:What's the best concert you send this year?
Speaker B:This year?
Speaker B:This year.
Speaker B:You know, we just came back from Kendrick and Sza.
Speaker B:That was really good.
Speaker B:And then we saw our queen, Charlie xcx.
Speaker B:Charlie was good.
Speaker A:That's your white queen, though.
Speaker A:But not mine.
Speaker A:But, you know, hold on.
Speaker A:I love that for you.
Speaker B:Yeah, hold on.
Speaker B:Not too much.
Speaker B:Hold on, hold on.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Y' all had a bride, y' all.
Speaker A:The entire downtown Minneapolis was filled with lime green.
Speaker A:Lime green everywhere.
Speaker A:Up right, left, center.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So Kendrick and Sizzle and slash.
Speaker A:Charlie Xax.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Are you gonna see Beyonce?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:That will be your best concert.
Speaker A:Obviously, by the time this episode is out, it probably will be our best concert, but, you know, for sure, we'll see.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just putting that out there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What would you say your signature cocktail is?
Speaker B:Signature.
Speaker B:Like the one I enjoy the most or the one I like to make the most?
Speaker A:Both.
Speaker A:Answer.
Speaker A:Both.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:The one that I like to make the most.
Speaker B:I actually, really, really enjoy making an old fashioned.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I really.
Speaker B:I love a gimlet and I really.
Speaker B:I really been enjoying making a gimlet again lately.
Speaker B:And my drink that I enjoy myself, personally.
Speaker B:Yeah, I do love a gimlet.
Speaker B:I'm a Gin person.
Speaker B:Gin is my preferred spirit.
Speaker B:So anything with gin is really good to go.
Speaker B:Honorary mention to.
Speaker B:Honorary mention to a porn star martini.
Speaker B:I do love a good porn star.
Speaker A:When you said.
Speaker A:When you say you like gin, I was like, you like Ogoro?
Speaker A:That is your thing, you know?
Speaker B:This is ancestral.
Speaker B:It's in the bloodline.
Speaker A:Bloodline on the front line.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yes, in the bloodline.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So we have you like a pond star martini, and you like gin.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And I do also love an espresso martini.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:That's martini.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:I don't get the appeal for an espresso martini, but, you know, there's some good ones.
Speaker A:Y' all do you.
Speaker A:It's bitter.
Speaker B:I don't know which ones you've been having, sweetie.
Speaker B:Hold on now.
Speaker A:Is it sweet?
Speaker B:No, but it's, like, well balanced, flavor wise.
Speaker B:Not too sweet, but not bitter, though.
Speaker B:Bitter is like, you the wrong place.
Speaker A:Have you made.
Speaker A:Have you made the Negroni spagliato with prosecco in it?
Speaker A:Is it good?
Speaker B:It is good.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I want to try it.
Speaker B:You know, you only like sweets.
Speaker A:Can I go to the bottom?
Speaker A:What's that?
Speaker B:You know what it means?
Speaker A:What does it mean?
Speaker B:It means mistake.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:If I go to the bar, can I ask them for a Negroni spagliato with prosecco in it?
Speaker A:Can I ask them for that at the bar?
Speaker A:If you're the bartender, and someone comes up to you, it's gonna get a Negroni.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Serious?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Because what is that concoction?
Speaker B:It's gonna be giving what your stomach was giving that day on the plane.
Speaker B:I thought I.
Speaker B:Shrimp.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:My stomach wasn't giving.
Speaker A:So for context, job.
Speaker A:So let me explain what happened.
Speaker A:I was on my way back from New Orleans.
Speaker A:I went to the restaurant, it's called Leah's, and I.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:I don't want to call them out.
Speaker A:I'm gonna start again.
Speaker A:I'm gonna start again.
Speaker A:I'm gonna start again.
Speaker A:So for context, what had happened was.
Speaker A:For context, what had happened was I was in New Orleans.
Speaker A:I was coming back to Minneapolis, right?
Speaker A:And I go to this restaurant in the airport to have gumbo because I really do.
Speaker A:I love me a gumbo, love me a gumbo, and I love a seafood gumbo with, like, some sausages in it.
Speaker A:Amazing.
Speaker A:I ordered the gumbo, and the gumbo was nice for the most part, but the shrimp was tasting like sausage.
Speaker A:I don't know how to.
Speaker A:The shrimp wasn't tasting like shrimp.
Speaker A:It wasn't feeling like shrimp.
Speaker A:I had the first one, I was like, maybe it's just this particular shrimp had.
Speaker A:The second shrimp, it really wasn't really given at that point.
Speaker A:I texted this group chats that Antonia and I are in, and I tell them that, hey, y' all, I just had this weird gumbo with shrimp, right?
Speaker A:Paradox.
Speaker A:I don't make it past today.
Speaker A:You know, I started.
Speaker A:I started sharing my assets with my friends.
Speaker A:But yeah, that is.
Speaker A:That is different from having a Negro needs sparkling.
Speaker A:I thought we're from a circle with it, so that's a difference.
Speaker A:That was a different scenario.
Speaker A:And then they were dragging me for having seafood gumbo at the airport.
Speaker B:So, like, people don't know why.
Speaker A:Because I wanted some gumbo.
Speaker B:Why you ain't get it outside of the airport?
Speaker B:Why would you get it at the airport?
Speaker A:Because my flight was in the morning and I was in the morning.
Speaker B:Harry, you know, there's certain things you're not meant to eat.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:There's a Tick Tock video.
Speaker A:I don't know if it was.
Speaker A:I don't know who sent it to me.
Speaker A:About this girl speaking Yoruba, I say that you shouldn't be eating.
Speaker B:There are just certain things you're not meant to eat at certain times of the day.
Speaker A:But you know what I can eat at by the morning?
Speaker A:If it is like very small eba with maybe bitter leaf soup, I can have that in the morning.
Speaker A:Or a furreo.
Speaker A:That can work.
Speaker A:You know, I eat jollof rice in the morning.
Speaker A:I can eat jollof rice all the time.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:Breakfast for me is an easy concept.
Speaker A:It can be breakfast in America.
Speaker A:It is lunch, or it's even dinner in Australia.
Speaker A:So please, I want to have gobble for breakfast.
Speaker A:If I want to have gobble for breakfast, I can have gobble for breakfast.
Speaker A:It shouldn't be a problem.
Speaker B:I don't know about gumbo for breakfast.
Speaker B:Now, hold on.
Speaker B:No, there's some things you should not be eating at certain times of the day.
Speaker B:Gumbo is one of them.
Speaker B:That's why your stomach was bubbling.
Speaker A:Would you have a bath for breakfast?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Definitely rice.
Speaker A:No, you have rice for breakfast.
Speaker A:Would you have.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Would you have yam and egg sauce for breakfast?
Speaker A:If you're eating yaman egg sauce, why can't you eat rice?
Speaker A:No, it's not the same thing.
Speaker B:Not the same.
Speaker A:If you're eating yam and egg sauce, yes, for breakfast, why can't you eat pandey?
Speaker B:Ah, I can't do.
Speaker B:If I eat panadam in the Morning that I'm going through a lot.
Speaker B:I'm actually depressed.
Speaker B:Going through a lot.
Speaker B:I'm homesick.
Speaker B:That's why, like, winter, I'm homesick.
Speaker B:Like, I need to get on a plane to Nigeria immediately.
Speaker B:I'm actually homesick.
Speaker A:I've not found a damn for breakfast before.
Speaker A:I don't know when, but I think.
Speaker B:I have for me to be having financially.
Speaker B:I know that I'm either, like, very sick, like, unwell, or, like, literally homesick.
Speaker B:I need to be on a plane to Nigeria the next day.
Speaker B:Or, like, last night was mad real.
Speaker B:Like, too real.
Speaker B:Like, too real.
Speaker B:And then the saloon type real.
Speaker B:And, you know, y' all know I'm not playing that game with y' all this summer.
Speaker B:I'm leaving, y' all.
Speaker B:I'm leaving.
Speaker A:You're not leaving.
Speaker A:You're not leaving anywhere.
Speaker B:I am.
Speaker B:You're not gonna do that to me.
Speaker B:This auntie.
Speaker B:I'm a mother.
Speaker A:Mother care.
Speaker A:What is your guilty pleasure?
Speaker B:Reality tv.
Speaker A:Favorite reality shows right now.
Speaker B:Rehouse out of Atlanta.
Speaker A:Who is your favorite housewife currently on Atlanta?
Speaker B:It has to be Angela Oakley.
Speaker B:Angela is taking it real bad.
Speaker B:She's taking it real bad.
Speaker B:She is doing the thing.
Speaker B:I really want to root for Shamia, but I don't know what's going on with Shamia right now.
Speaker B:Honey.
Speaker B:This whole thing with her and Portia, I don't know, Chad.
Speaker A:It's not her fault.
Speaker A:Like, her friend isn't, you know, showing up for her in the way that she wants, you know, So I don't understand why people are blaming Shamir for feeling.
Speaker B:We're not blaming her, but it's just not.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's a lot.
Speaker B:It's a lot.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think she lost to me, though.
Speaker A:But she went to do the thing with.
Speaker B:I didn't like the whole thing around.
Speaker A:I'm like, why are you.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's exactly what I'm referencing is the whole thing with rap.
Speaker B:That was just.
Speaker B:It felt out of place.
Speaker B:It just.
Speaker B:It didn't mesh.
Speaker A:It felt like you were gonna be for a podcast.
Speaker A:Like, why do you need to meet Shamir for?
Speaker A:Shamir doesn't have a podcast.
Speaker A:Also, you can Google.
Speaker B:She don't own a podcast network.
Speaker A:So Angela Oakley is your fave right now.
Speaker A:Who's your least favorite of the other housewives in this season?
Speaker A:What I got.
Speaker B:My list right now would have to be Britt.
Speaker B:Edie.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker B:Ed.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I feel like what K I did to her was foul.
Speaker A:I'm gonna own That I think that.
Speaker B:Oh, for sure.
Speaker A:You know, I had, like, secondhand embarrassment watching Kenya, like, do that.
Speaker A:Like, that is ridiculous.
Speaker A:And now you have Phaedra back for two weeks.
Speaker A:I'm just like, you know.
Speaker A:But, you know, it is what it is.
Speaker A:It's whatever.
Speaker A:It's fine.
Speaker A:But, like, I don't like what Kenya did.
Speaker A:I thought that she was very unprofessional.
Speaker A:You know, you could have done it some other time.
Speaker A:Not, like at your store opening.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I would also say that, you know, she's my least favorite, too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I do like all the girls in general.
Speaker B:I do like all.
Speaker B:I love Kelly.
Speaker B:I love Kelly.
Speaker B:Kelly.
Speaker A:I love Kelly.
Speaker A:Kelly is my favorite.
Speaker A:But I love all of them.
Speaker B:I love all of them.
Speaker A:Even Portia.
Speaker B:I love Portia.
Speaker B:I love Portia.
Speaker B:I love.
Speaker A:You know, so you always have to have a faith that you like.
Speaker A:But it's like, I like you, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I love Porsche, but I want, like, Giselle to me.
Speaker B:Yes, exactly, exactly.
Speaker B:You don't have to expand on that.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:Exactly that.
Speaker B:Exactly, exactly that.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And I say Angela, because Angela is really, like, moving like a housewife.
Speaker B:Like a housewife.
Speaker B:Like, she's doing the housewife thing perfectly.
Speaker B:Like, she's giving us good tv.
Speaker B:She's doing everything.
Speaker B:Like, she's doing exactly everything.
Speaker B:I love Kelly because Kelly just seems like a girl's girl.
Speaker B:Like, she's a good friend.
Speaker B:She wants to have fun.
Speaker B:Looks good.
Speaker B:She's bubbly.
Speaker B:I love her dog, Cha Cha.
Speaker B:Like, I love her.
Speaker B:She's so small and tiny.
Speaker B:Like, she's just so cute.
Speaker B:Like, I love her.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think that.
Speaker A:I think that Angela Oakley would have, you know, figure out a way to mesh well with the mini and Sheree.
Speaker B:And that's what Carlos said.
Speaker B:Because I watched Carlos's reviews, and he said they've been trying to get Angela on since season three.
Speaker B:And I was like, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Held her own with that.
Speaker B:With that.
Speaker A:With relationship related.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:She would have meshed well, you know, that's real.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Housewives, I love Ready to see.
Speaker A:Me, too.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I'm glad we connect on that.
Speaker A:Before we wrap this up, what do you want folks to take away when they engage your content?
Speaker B:When they engage my content, I want them to take away that I'm always rooting for everybody black at all times.
Speaker B:Everything black.
Speaker B:Everybody black at all times.
Speaker B:Specifically Nigerians.
Speaker B:Specifically queer femmes, the Nigerians, queer fans.
Speaker B:Black women, own women.
Speaker B:Led preferably, if I can help it.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker B:I love music.
Speaker B:Life is short.
Speaker B:Have fun, work, but don't kill yourself.
Speaker B:You know, Take them days off.
Speaker B:Travel.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:You probably see me at my job tonight and you probably see me at the airport tomorrow morning.
Speaker B:It was me.
Speaker B:Both times.
Speaker B:It was me.
Speaker B:You saw both places.
Speaker A:Shout out to that.
Speaker A:You know, we can work out.
Speaker A:We can catch flights, too.
Speaker A:You know, I do both.
Speaker B:I do both.
Speaker B:Don't even question it.
Speaker B:Don't even drag you up.
Speaker B:Don't scratch your brain too hard because you might get a headache.
Speaker B:It's me.
Speaker B:You saw me.
Speaker B:It was me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Me at the bar slanging them drinks.
Speaker B:And you definitely saw me at MSP at the Delta Lounge the next day.
Speaker A:The Delta Lounge, because, you know, you are a.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Senior member.
Speaker A:You know, Shout out to that.
Speaker A:Yes, coming through.
Speaker A:Can you bring me Skywell?
Speaker A:I want to go to Atlanta to do it.
Speaker B:What you doing now?
Speaker A:I gotta pray.
Speaker A:Go for a night vigil.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:As you know, we need to find you somewhere God.
Speaker B:Godly.
Speaker A:Someone Godly from a godly home.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Well, Antonia, thank you for coming on Odejova.
Speaker A:It's been such a great show.
Speaker A:This has been like.
Speaker A:I feel like I was just a little FaceTime call with you, just kicking and, you know, I have to come.
Speaker B:Back at the end of summer to recap the summer.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Let's do a summer recap because it's gonna be.
Speaker A:We're gonna have to have a great summer.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm gonna be more.
Speaker A:I'm gonna be more in Minnesota, Minneapolis this summer.
Speaker A:I'm gonna be like, I'm going to sit at home because there's rice at home.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Thank you so much.
Speaker A:Thanks you all for watching until I see you at the next podcast.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So.
